RWCMD Takes Over the National

National Theatre alumni

The National Theatre opened its doors over 45 years ago when Laurence Olivier directed the first ever performance on the 22nd October 1963. There are now over 1,000 performances every year given to over 600,000 people. The National has achieved the status as one of the greatest theatres in the world – and it seems RWCMD graduates are taking over!

Stage management graduates, (left to right) Anna Hill, Matt Berry, Rob Clarke, Masha Baird, Chris Howells and Jo Nield are all making their mark in this prestigious company. Anna, Rob, Chris, Masha and Jo managed to squeeze us into their hectic schedule for a quick chat.

What course did you do at RWCMD and when did you graduate?
 
AH: I did the three-year Graduate Diploma in Stage Management and graduated in 1990.

RC: BA Hons Theatre Studies, Stage Management option. I graduated in 1995.

CH: BA Hons Theatre Studies, Stage Management, graduated 2001.

MB: Stage Management, graduated 1996.

JN: BA Hons Theatre Studies, Stage Management option. I graduated in 1997.

What was your most memorable project at College?

AH: I was Lighting Assistant on Jamie Garven's production of The Good Person of Szechuan during my first year. It was particularly memorable because the computerized lighting board crashed during a performance and I had to operate the rest of the show on the manual back up, but without being able to see the stage. It was a challenge but we made it through! I worked as Deputy Stage Management on Macbeth directed by Paul Clements during my third year. This was my first experience of DSMing and I loved it - it is the reason that I am a DSM today.

RC: I loved the trips to Hungary and Edinburgh. My most memorable production has to be Look Back in Anger. Dave Bond was directing for the first time in College – it is still one of the best productions I’ve ever done.

CH: My most memorable project was when I was Lighting Designer for The Importance of Being Earnest which was performed in-the-round in the Bute theatre. This production had lots of challenges because of the in-the-round staging but was great fun.

MB: One flew Over the Cuckoo Nest. That was the moment I realised I wanted to do sound.

JN: Top Girls was one of my favourites. It was (almost) an all-female cast and crew which was very interesting and a lot of fun! Also, my final project was a collaboration with Made In Wales and led to my first job with them as DSM.

What do you do at the National Theatre?
 
AH: I am now a Senior Deputy Stage Manager at the National Theatre.

RC: I am Lighting Supervisor in the Cottesloe Theatre (the National’s cutting edge space).

CH: I am a Lighting Technician and am currently based in the Lyttelton. I have also spent time with the Cottesloe and Oliver lighting teams. My job involves daily maintenance and operation of equipment and production shows.

MB: I’m a Sound Engineer. I open and run shows, and look after the sound department in the evenings and at weekends. We run the foyer gigs and cover all the sound requirements for the building.

JN: I am Assistant Stage Manager

How and when did you get the job?
 
AH: I worked as Assistant Stage Manager on a short-term contract for the National for a few months in 1998. I returned in 2003 after a few years working in the West End and for the RSC.  The show I was working on transferred from the National to the West End and I went with it as DSM.  When it closed in 2004, I went back to the National as DSM on a short-term contract.  After a few months a permanent DSM position became vacant. I applied for it and was successful. 

RC: I started in September 2008 after a vigorous interview procedure.

CH: I applied for the job in 2004 after seeing it advertised. I thought the interview process would be good experience and an opportunity to refresh my interview technique. To my delight I was offered the position.

MB: I got the job in 2004. I went in to help out on a show and have been there ever since!

JN: I did a show here as part of the Transformation Season in the Lyttleton Theatre with Trestle Theatre Company. I cheekily slipped my CV to the In-house Stage Manager. A year later she called me in for a chat and offered me a job on one show as maternity cover. That was in 2003 - six years on I now have a permanent position.

How has your training helped to get you where you are today?
 
AH: My College training gave me the opportunity to experience working in a variety of roles.  I really enjoyed the fact that you would be assigned to totally different jobs from one production to the next.  It's very helpful to gain an insight into all areas of technical theatre – when you go on to specialise in one area, it gives you more awareness of what your colleagues in other departments are dealing with. 

During my time at RWCMD I gained the confidence to face new challenges and to push myself into doing things I hadn't done before - or even thought of doing – like DSMing. We were very lucky to have two incredibly supportive Stage Management tutors in David Edwards & Neil Marcus. Even after I had graduated I would pop into College or ring them to ask advice about the professional work I was doing.  Their support, both during my time at College and after graduating, was invaluable.

My training is definitely responsible for the job I am doing today. I started my course dead set on becoming a lighting technician and eventually a lighting designer, but I actually left to become a stage manager. And I'm still doing it nearly twenty years later!

RC: I agree! I gained an excellent knowledge of all departments involved in the theatre process.

CH: My training gave me both the theoretical and practical knowledge of the industry. A lot of technical theatre courses don’t cover both aspects. I gained real-life experiences – I saw the good and bad bits of the industry and learnt how to survive in it.

MB: I'm still very good at soldering!  The training I received at College was a good overall grounding in the basics of stage management and technical theatre. I find the organisational skills that I learnt at College invaluable. I'm a very organised person and often end up multi-tasking - I attribute this skill to RWCMD.

JN: My training gave me an excellent grounding in all things stage management! Every theatre and company I’ve worked for, and even each show, is very different but having a basic knowledge that you can adapt and tailor to each project is invaluable. Doing the project with Made In Wales was fantastic experience and gave me an understanding of what would be expected of me in the ‘outside world’. Unlike most people on my course, I had no prior knowledge or experience of working in theatre so I learnt all the basics at College.

What has been your most significant professional project to date?
 
AH: One of the most significant was Ken Hill's production of The Invisible Man which was my first West End show. It transferred from Theatre Royal Stratford East.  It was a huge technical challenge to create the illusion of an invisible man in front of a live audience, but it was also a lot of fun. I very much enjoyed working as DSM on the touring productions of the West End musicals Spend Spend Spend and Return to the Forbidden Planet. At the National I think my most significant project has been working as DSM on His Dark Materials in 2004/05. It was a huge project, incredibly complicated and technically ambitious. 

RC: My most significant professional project was when I was Production Manager at the Bush Theatre. It was a challenge to work on West End productions with little resources. I also love working on new writing and contributing to industry firsts.

CH: Working at the National Theatre I have been part of a team that has brought ground breaking productions like War Horse and Coram Boy to the stage.

MB: I opened Saint Joan and War Horse at the National in the same month, while being very pregnant! Both were nominated for Best Sound at the Olivier Awards. Saint Joan won - but I gave birth the day before so couldn’t make it to the ceremony!

JN: My favourite show ever was The Pillowman by Martin McDonagh. It was hectic but such fun! I had the privilege of working on Harold Pinter’s last show, and have just opened Alan Bennett’s new play, The Habit of Art.

What are you working on at the moment?
 
AH: I am currently working on David Hare's new play about the current financial crisis, The Power of Yes, in the Lyttelton Theatre. In January I start rehearsals for The White Guard, Andrew Upton's adaptation of Mikhail Bulgakov's novel, directed by Howard Davies.

RC: I currently have two rep shows on the go, Our Class and Pains of Youth. I am also preparing for Cat in the Hat, a kids show.

CH: I have just finished the production period of Alan Bennett’s The Habit of Art. I am planning to stay at the National Theatre and hope to move up the career ladder in the lighting department. There are a lot of exciting projects coming up next year.

MB: I'm currently in the Cottesloe working on Our Class, Pains of Youth and The Cat in the Hat. At the moment I'm working part time so I can raise my daughter as I am a single working mum. When she goes to school I'll go back to opening award winning shows!

JN: I have just started rehearsing a new play by Tamsin Oglesby called Really Old, Like 45 which opens in the Cottesloe in January 2010. Next I’ll be working on Terrance Rattigan’s, After The Dance directed by Thea Sharrock at the Lyttleton.

What advice would you give current students?
 
AH: Take the opportunities that College gives you to try working in as many different roles as you possibly can. It will probably be the only time in your life that you can do one show as Sound Designer and the next show as Assistant Stage Manager, so make the most of it! You might end up on a totally career path from the one you had imagined. Get out there and start making contacts and gaining experience as soon as you can.  I learnt so much by contacting places like the Sherman and offering to help out for free on fit ups etc, and I made valuable contacts whilst doing so.  It's never too early to start networking.

RC: Learn all you can about every discipline so that you have an appreciation for the all departments involved in the industry. Don’t specialise too soon – keep your options open.

CH: The best advice I was given when I was training was: “If you are good at your job people will ask you to work for them. But if you are good at your job and are friendly and resourceful they will ask you to work for them again and again.” If you want to work in this industry do it because you love it and not because you want to be rich or have an easy lifestyle!

MB: Don't settle. Be bold, be brave, get noticed and think outside the box. Most of all, find something you love doing because we don't do this job for the money! Going to work shouldn't be a chore. It should be something you passionately want to do.

JN: Stage management is all about people skills so learn to smile through anything. Work hard, play hard and network like crazy!